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Into The Tiger's Den


Into The Tiger's Den
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Video source:Inside Men, The President's Last Bang
Music:2WEI - Pushin' On (Quantic Soul Orchestra Cover)
Genres:Drama / Action / Character Profile / Story / Trailer music, Film score, Epic Music
Contest: CreaCon 2020
Video parameters:1920x1080 H264 (12107 kbps)
Audio parameters:AAC
Length:00:03:18
Comments:14  [ month: 1 ]
Downloads:1699
on-line views:26
Date added:01.07.2020

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This time, my 2nd entry to a contest on the site will be taking you through the smoke-surfaced waters of loyalty and servitude that one daring gangster valued more than anything. Thus, this gangster's eyes only allowed him to see the helping hand of one too influential journalist and never his other one, viperishly clenched around the dagger of betrayal behind his back.

But, as history dictates, appearances can deceive for so long, as the truest faces reveal themselves in a grotesque flourish set to sever all pre-existent ties. This becomes the ideal recipe for one solid vengeance movie that feral gangster An Sang-Goo and cerebral, under-the-cloud prosecutor Woo Jang-Hoon bring to life through an intricate plot meant to put an end to corrupt, manipulative higher-ups of the political medium and all their affiliates.

With this in mind, I hereby welcome you to a dark, cynical yet ultimately satisfying dive through the vicious underbelly of South Korean politics and their painful implications, as imagined by the movie Inside Men.

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I would also once again like to thank my wonderful friend https://www.deviantart.com/galenarie for helping out through her work on this beastly poster.

Outro track: Inside Men OST - Main Theme
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MrAuditore96 - 12.01.2021 в 23:26  
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Написал okhostok 21.07.2020 at 04:35

Написал MrAuditore96 21.07.2020 at 04:35

did you mean dark as in "negative" and light as in "positive"?

It is my personal taste, that really does not matter. It is just about dark and bright colors used there. For me, strong bright and dark contrasts are the things that give me most striking impression. To be specific, when after bright scenes suddenly comes dark, I like it - destruction of light. Or vice versa (it can also be said about negative/positive).
In your clip bright and dark scenes are mostly ordered by parts, it seems like you are holding yourself, it is not that chaotic and striking. However, in general, it is better not to be chaotic. )

Написал MrAuditore96 21.07.2020 at 04:35

Now, while I know that the fact that I need to explain things means that I have not presented things clearly enough, I still decided to say this because I want you to know what my vision was.

I appreciate this. Now I understood better.

About story, I would have liked to see this not in 'action mode', but in 'dramatic mode', like slower pace, close-up of emotions of the characters, other song choice. If you're doing in 'action mode' - you cannot give a lot of information about characters. The most common approach for this is:
cause/reason -> some action -> result/consequence.
In 'dramatic mode', it is:
first cause/reason -> first result/consequence -> cause that is gained from first result/consequence -> build-up -> culmination -> final result/consequence.
You are doing 'action mode' story in dramatic approach, which is wrong. Hope I was clear.
BTW, I enjoyed your Gaksital x Naruto, I showed it to my friends, they also appreciated this).

Yoo, many apologies for only voicing out my reply now, but I really appreciated your explanation and the time you took showing me the vision behind your feedback too! I'll take it all into account for next time; cuz I do tend to make my stories pretty muddy, ya know, like I should make it clearer even if I change the order of these causes and results.
Also thank you! I had fun doing that quick short Gaksital video! Gaksital aka Bridal Mask is a very fun drama series, and just like many others with an action with revenge plot in them, it features similar plotlines and motifs to even anime, so I wanted to exploit that : p
okhostok - 21.07.2020 в 04:35  
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Написал MrAuditore96 21.07.2020 at 01:17

did you mean dark as in "negative" and light as in "positive"?

It is my personal taste, that really does not matter. It is just about dark and bright colors used there. For me, strong bright and dark contrasts are the things that give me most striking impression. To be specific, when after bright scenes suddenly comes dark, I like it - destruction of light. Or vice versa (it can also be said about negative/positive).
In your clip bright and dark scenes are mostly ordered by parts, it seems like you are holding yourself, it is not that chaotic and striking. However, in general, it is better not to be chaotic. )

Написал MrAuditore96 21.07.2020 at 01:17

Now, while I know that the fact that I need to explain things means that I have not presented things clearly enough, I still decided to say this because I want you to know what my vision was.

I appreciate this. Now I understood better.

About story, I would have liked to see this not in 'action mode', but in 'dramatic mode', like slower pace, close-up of emotions of the characters, other song choice. If you're doing in 'action mode' - you cannot give a lot of information about characters. The most common approach for this is:
cause/reason -> some action -> result/consequence.
In 'dramatic mode', it is:
first cause/reason -> first result/consequence -> cause that is gained from first result/consequence -> build-up -> culmination -> final result/consequence.
You are doing 'action mode' story in dramatic approach, which is wrong. Hope I was clear.
BTW, I enjoyed your Gaksital x Naruto, I showed it to my friends, they also appreciated this).
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 01:35  
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Написал t0m1k 16.07.2020 at 21:48

Pretty ambient work with joyful collaboration of music and video. Can't say that I hava managed to track the plot. Since your last clip my complaints about duration of your clips hasn't changed
Want to note growing of you editing skills, in places I can see good syncrodrodynamics, and definitely you feel the music.
Glad to see you here again with really intersting sources and I hope next time you will blow our minds. Good luck, pal!

Hahah, yes, thank you my friend!
The duration is still similar, though I've attempted to make it more bearable this time, in an attempt to get you invested in the atmosphere (if not the plot ).
Thanks a lot for the nice highlights; and regarding the mind blowing... I actually had a much more impressive video in mind for this CreaCon, I have been thinking about it ever since the end of FreeCon 2019, but I let real life get in the way and kept saying that I'll have enough time to do it and ended up starting it way too late. That's why I switched to working on a simpler project, but this doesn't make me any less happy with it, hah.
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 01:31  
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Написал Madfield 12.07.2020 at 18:45

Ничего не понял, но очень интересно А если серьезно, то вышло довольно атмосферно и побуждает ознакомиться с исходником, что уже достижение Хорошо смонтировано.

Thank you very much good sir!
Hope I manage to make things clearer next time, but still, I appreciate the way it came out for you guys, it really means a lot!
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 01:30  
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Написал Shep 12.07.2020 at 12:43

Смотрится как наполовину трейлер - наполовину клип. И работа не может определиться в какую сторону больше сделать перевес. Выглядит неплохо, видно, что упор сделан на проработку сюжета с определенным посылом.
Тем не менее смотрел без определенного интереса и восторга.

Your intuition is fairly correct, though my intention was not to make it a trailer, despite the fact that the song I used is a trailer-ish song.
I have indeed worked on revealing a certain plot and story through this video, which I hope to bring out with more enthusiasm in the future!
Thank you!
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 01:28  
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Написал Dеath_Kn1ght 11.07.2020 at 17:13

Wow , nice one, really better than previous video , now i want to watch this film ^_^
Action scene was very cool and atmosphere in video is very good. You should make more action scenes i think , imho. Anyway i like this video, thanks ! =)

Heeey, thanks a lot buddy!
Hope you get to watch this movie, Inside Men is the exact name of the main source. Also the one I used as a cameo shot, The President's Last Bang, is also a fun movie to watch, despite being quite old (2005). It's got a kinda comedic (black comedy, kinda) take on the assassination of the head of a military dictatorship in South Korea, which is a turning point in South Korean history, thus portrayed in many films (yes I am super into South Korean movies ).
And yeah! I think I will try my hand with more action and overflow style, though I mostly like to have a plot in my edits, however small or briefly weaved in.
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 01:17  
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Написал okhostok 11.07.2020 at 15:14

Hello author, about clip:
The Intro Speech part (00:00-00:23) was good, it helps the viewer to concentrate and feel some atmosphere. However, after this part comes track which sadly does not fit into the atmosphere that the speech has created. Instead it destroys the atmosphere and the viewer should reconstruct different atmosphere in his head.
Okay then after that comes first part (00:23-1:27). This part is dark. It should have served as an introduction of characters, introduction of events. But as user "Илья Чижов" said there are a lot of confusions between characters - who is who. A lot of costume changes of characters create confusion, different environments create confusion, newspapers, texts that I do not understand create confusion. This part was not successful and it will surely affect other parts.
After that comes second part (1:27-1:57). This part is bright. It has a lot of actions, nice sync. Overall nice part.
Then the third part: conclusion (1:57-3:10). This part is relatively dark. This part has unknown characters - girls, confused characters which was affected by part I.
Overall story of the three parts that I understood. MC was wealthy man, than he was jailed, after that he was released and then he takes revenge. (However, I am not sure)
The last part did not convince me, it has not that brutality in Intro Speech part.
Overall this clip has nice structure, slightly unbalanced dark/bright, narrative with a lot of confusions. My impression about this clip is that this clip is a bit boring, maybe the theme and track was not my cup of tea.

Hello there my great friend okhostok!
I thank you a lot for such a detailed piece of feedback, and also for taking the time to properly write this in English, I admire you (but you know that).

I noticed you guys seemed to find some trouble getting the plot, it is perhaps that I didn't manage to convey it properly, I agree.
I'm disappointed the song ruined the atmosphere though, but I understand your viewpoint. I only have one question though... did you mean dark as in "negative" and light as in "positive"?
I also agree with the fact that the last part did not resemble the same brutality, it seems I have failed to quite recreate it in the last few days prior to the contest as I had spent a lot of time constructing the rest of it. It did deserve a better ending but the length of the song, its structure and everything, all considering, gave me what you see here.

Now to help clear out some confusion, let me describe what I intended to portray here: so, we start off from one of the main characters, the so-called wealthy man that you described who is shown in more phases of his life, the current one can be understood to be the one where he is at his worst as we will notice later on: he has lost his right hand, he is disgraced and wants revenge; then I slowly start revealing the fact that his downfall has much to do with people in power who have been corrupted by said power.
All these people, however, are being hunted down by one of the few righteous prosecutors out there, shown staring at the whiteboard of pictures and information that connects all the cases of corruption of these people. The plot of the movie is based on the interaction of this wealthy man and this prosecutor, who cross paths and grow from enemies to allies.
Now, this wealthy man has grown wealthy only through his work as a gangster, so that's why I interleave the bits from his present state with the ones from his past life, working as a gangster and serving both the old man (a journalist) that is shown at the beginning in the intro, and the other, white-haired one (also briefly shown at the beginning in photos). He is now going to make use of his connections from his gangster life in order to cook up this complex scheme of exposing the dark secrets of these corrupt people, all revealed by both him (which will get him imprisoned) and the prosecutor, who they think will be more believable in front of the people.
The girls, or rather, the one girl which dies in the end in an arranged car crash and fuels his last act of vengeance upon the people who wronged him, is a connection from his past; I do not reveal the fact that he was also dealing with prostitution, but I have implied that the girl who helps him in the end is a friend of his and actually rather close to him (or so I hoped to imply, hahah).

Now, while I know that the fact that I need to explain things means that I have not presented things clearly enough, I still decided to say this because I want you to know what my vision was. With this being said, I will confess that through this video I have still attempted to come full circle and describe the entire story by showing the evolution of the main character (the wealthy gangster man) in relation to the rest of the characters, both the ones he fought against, and the ones who helped him throughout his story.
I still hope that you managed to enjoy it, despite it not being exactly your cup of tea. Thanks a whole lot once again!
MrAuditore96 - 21.07.2020 в 00:05  
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Написал Илья Чижов 11.07.2020 at 10:03

Much better than your first clip here. It is good that you trying another genres, but criminal thriller needs a little more narrative in storytelling i think. It seems that story is complex here but represented in visual methods mostly. For me it was hard to understand who is who in this story. Atmosphere is good, you did a lot of work here and polished clip good. Maybe it is too many cuts in first half of video. Job is fine anyway.

All of you guys seem to think it's better and I much appreciate it, though I hope my first one hasn't been too shabby either hahah Still, thanks a lot! Yes, this entry is something I ended up competing with after realizing I don't have much time left and since my experience hasn't helped me -that- much, this is what came out. So what you're basically saying is that I should have also included some dialogue or text to help me? I agree with the cuts, it was probably too much footage in too little time, but I also tried to go for the overflow/oversync style a bit.
t0m1k - 16.07.2020 в 21:48  
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Pretty ambient work with joyful collaboration of music and video. Can't say that I hava managed to track the plot. Since your last clip my complaints about duration of your clips hasn't changed
Want to note growing of you editing skills, in places I can see good syncrodrodynamics, and definitely you feel the music.
Glad to see you here again with really intersting sources and I hope next time you will blow our minds. Good luck, pal!
Madfield - 12.07.2020 в 18:45  
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Ничего не понял, но очень интересно А если серьезно, то вышло довольно атмосферно и побуждает ознакомиться с исходником, что уже достижение Хорошо смонтировано.
Shep - 12.07.2020 в 12:43  
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Смотрится как наполовину трейлер - наполовину клип. И работа не может определиться в какую сторону больше сделать перевес. Выглядит неплохо, видно, что упор сделан на проработку сюжета с определенным посылом.
Тем не менее смотрел без определенного интереса и восторга.
Dеath_Kn1ght - 11.07.2020 в 17:13  
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Wow , nice one, really better than previous video , now i want to watch this film ^_^
Action scene was very cool and atmosphere in video is very good. You should make more action scenes i think , imho. Anyway i like this video, thanks ! =)
okhostok - 11.07.2020 в 15:14  
1 | 0
Hello author, about clip:
The Intro Speech part (00:00-00:23) was good, it helps the viewer to concentrate and feel some atmosphere. However, after this part comes track which sadly does not fit into the atmosphere that the speech has created. Instead it destroys the atmosphere and the viewer should reconstruct different atmosphere in his head.
Okay then after that comes first part (00:23-1:27). This part is dark. It should have served as an introduction of characters, introduction of events. But as user "Илья Чижов" said there are a lot of confusions between characters - who is who. A lot of costume changes of characters create confusion, different environments create confusion, newspapers, texts that I do not understand create confusion. This part was not successful and it will surely affect other parts.
After that comes second part (1:27-1:57). This part is bright. It has a lot of actions, nice sync. Overall nice part.
Then the third part: conclusion (1:57-3:10). This part is relatively dark. This part has unknown characters - girls, confused characters which was affected by part I.
Overall story of the three parts that I understood. MC was wealthy man, than he was jailed, after that he was released and then he takes revenge. (However, I am not sure)
The last part did not convince me, it has not that brutality in Intro Speech part.
Overall this clip has nice structure, slightly unbalanced dark/bright, narrative with a lot of confusions. My impression about this clip is that this clip is a bit boring, maybe the theme and track was not my cup of tea.
Илья Чижов - 11.07.2020 в 10:03  
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Much better than your first clip here. It is good that you trying another genres, but criminal thriller needs a little more narrative in storytelling i think. It seems that story is complex here but represented in visual methods mostly. For me it was hard to understand who is who in this story. Atmosphere is good, you did a lot of work here and polished clip good. Maybe it is too many cuts in first half of video. Job is fine anyway.


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